There a few places where I might have initiated this. Maybe this is the best since it will draw (hopefully) on the widest range of input.

Frequent users and visitors will be aware of an "innovation" that Federico Kereki instituted to enhance gridded graphic formats on the site.

As an "apprentice" (consider that very loosely) to him I "learnt and began to employ the trade".

Given an elevated rank on Perplexus I have created two similar graphics which have worked 'fine'.

Or did they?

Technically they are fine. The issue of concern was raised by some initially on finding that a row in the graphic, on browser loading, seemed to be obliterated but on a slight scroll everything was right.

After the posting of one of my 'creations' for a member did it become apparent that there was a problem. The Perplexus problem cited was Sequence Fill in 2.

So what is the issue?

You will not appreciate our concern unless you have access to several browsers, particularly MS Internet Explorer versions 5.5 and 6.0.

When loaded into Firefox, Opera and IE 5.5, apart from quirks in browser display there really is no issue. See this in IE 6.0.xxxx then you are almost certain see the XHTML graphic but no problem body text!

This is not unique. I similarly created a graphic "score card" for Final Scores at the PrimeBowl. The same phenomenon occurs.

Initially one might consider that I have done something errant. Yes, I considered that, but there is nothing that I have done that was divergent from Federico's work. I took a "step back" and chose WXYZ. To my 'glee' [I knew I was absolved of 'malpractice'] this had the same problem under IE 6.0!!

I have taken a look at several other posting where this technology has been used; i'm not about to check any more as it issue is clearly "across the board".

I have looked at:

1. WXYZ pid=5702
   
2. Shade-doku pid=5696
   
3. Boxed Eights pid=5670
   
4. Diamond Mine pid=5656
   
5. Odd-Even Jigsaw Sudoku pid=5648
   
6. Three Different Trails pid=5602
   

I have followed up further on this issue. I am getting absolutely nothing back from the msdn thread mentioned in the second comment of this thread.

I have since looked somewhat exhaustively for problems where Federiko Kereki utilised the XHTML technology [I feel somewhat uncomfortable with the term 'technology', maybe because I'm thinking materialistic machinery!]

I am about to post a list of all problems that I have found which use XHTML as authored either by FK or myself(er, the two noted in the opening comment are not listed)!

In that listing I have recorded (free) beside two entries. These open up within my IE 6.0 browser as one should expect.

I take some solace that the second on the list was actually of my authoring.

And .... it did use 3 XHTML tables, 'punctuated' with text!
See a note below.

The DIV tag does not appear within the body of it. This gives more credibility that the DIV tag is our 'culprit'.

But, ......, don't let me get too carried away. While I am reasonably confident of my assessment, I have proposed a few interventions for levik where pid=5702 and pid=5696 have some lines that I'd like to see modified. Because of Perplexus "lockdowns" I cannot test my thoughts. Unfortunately, and there are sound reasons to the depth of server/site security to which privileged administrators are able to penetrate.

Some may feel uncomfortable with this but there is a reality that the site, and personal info here, is protected to the best level that this site should expect to offer.

So, what do I want?

1. Peruse my list.

2. Add what you think I have missed

3. Suggest ..whatever.




Oh, the list..... <Find it over here,

XHTML utilises the concept of "Style" employed under Cascading Style Sheets technology, [mm. maybe the word is ok.] The program used reads a spreadsheet and by user demand creates an "html" type listing which needs to be edited for use here.

I lost my "credility" when I tried to address this location on site, http://perplexus.info/forum.php?fid=3&tid=1063.
It was going to point to:
Oh, the list.....

I had a reply from levik:

OK, I have trouble understanding the issues you are having (and
reproducing them, since I run use Firefox generally, and only have IE7
on my machine which seems to display everything fine).



But I have made the specific edits you have asked for - they didn't
seem to mess things up on the browsers I have, so let me know if it
helps any on the IE version you were being troubled by.



I asked for edits to two problems, pid=5702 and pid=5696, in which I asked for the DIV tags in the first to changed to CENTER and in the second to be removed and not replaced. Under IE 6.0.xxx the first is as though nothing happened but the second is as I would view it under IE 5.5 or Firefox.

Given the length of the list at the link noted above I am not about to ask levik to remove internal DIV tags from those problems for the sake of one browser version.

Given however that DIV and CENTER cause an issue, I am prepared to offer the XHTML format but the graphic will simply have to be left justified.

OOO,

Thank you for some sort of feedback. I was beginning to that this was a "non-issue" or I was doing the "one hand clapping"act!

Before I proceed,


firstly I notice a typing error in the link 3 postings above for All the nines.

After reading your comment OOO, I looked back at the page source code to see how FK created the two celled table for that; I did know that he used "50%" of table width, and I think I've worked out how he could arrive at that value to house the XHTML table graphic.

Secondly, if I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that I determine an 'x'% for the graphic table and then allocate (100-x)/2% to the two outer cells. Yes?

The thought is good but the HTML interpreter doesn't really like the idea. But then....


...then, I ran a test through my HTML editor. If I allocate the table of 100% width, then I can divide the table into three. I do however need something placed inside the open TD and close TD tags. It looks like the " " code will provide the necessary padding.

What do I do now? I don't have a test arena! Charlie actually made note of that point (test area) in a discussion about Font change in comments.

In reality I do have a place. I can, with the privilege of rank, edit my work (and yours) above the JM queue (I won't go into details), but once there having done that, and save it, what is my guarantee that what I see as appropriate will work under IE 6.0?

Of the two prior posts using an anchor tag to link "All the Nines", the domain name, "perplexus.info/", is repeated twice in the second creating a bad link.

Most casual users, however, use I.E.. And version 6 is the highest available to those who haven't switched to Vista.

What are their numbers so we can modify the URL to point to them?

You should have an email with those numbers embedded in their specific URLs.

Screen size settings? Screen resolution? 600 x 480, 800 x 600, etc?

I've done some screen captures, but only under IE 6.0 at 800x600. [Actually the Josie3 one, at this resolution, opened with one and a half vertical screen lines of text cutting off the lower pixels of the letters :-) I had to refresh to get the result posted.] I didn't capture under Firefox as we know there is no issue.