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Gamer
2003-07-23 02:45:10
Order of Posting

I am confused about what order problems are being released. I thought if a problem was first into the queue, it would be first out, but I know more recent problems have been pushed instead. What is the order things are posted?

friedlinguini
2003-07-23 04:37:33
Re: Order of Posting

My personal method is "highest score that also includes a solution". Otherwise, Ravi always gets the first (and sometimes only) problem every day, as long as people approve at least one of his problems.

Gamer
2003-07-24 03:25:21
Re: Order of Posting

I don't think my problem will ever get posted! There are always ones better than it.

Lewis
2003-07-24 04:04:12
Re: Order of Posting

I think it should be the one nearest the front of the queue that has 3 TU's that gets posted. (I just want one more of my problems posted so i can become a journeyman! Not asking you to post mine first. Really ;)

friedlinguini
2003-07-24 04:47:37
Re: Order of Posting

Fortunately, Gamer, I rarely get to the queue before somebody else posts the first problem of the morning. :-)>

levik
2003-07-24 12:03:29
Re: Order of Posting

That would be me :)

I generally DO post the first one that's in the queue and eligible (making it Ravi's if he has one)

Unfortunately due to an increased workload lately, a few minutes in the morning is all I can afford to spend on the site, and that is literally with the alarm clock still ringing in my ears.

Hopefully this situation will improve soon, but for the time being a do apologize for my absenteism.

DJ
2003-07-26 05:44:33
Re: Order of Posting

By the 'first one' in queu, I assume you mean by the time/date stamp; but that's not always (in fact, rarely) the first problem to make it into the queue. It seems that while the queue wieight allows problems from other and newer users to make it into the queue sooner, that method is counterproductive, since Ravi had hundreds of problems already in February, which are just now being shown, but the rest of the queue is in May. I think the order of posting should be consistent with the order that problems make it into the queue, or else the purpose of the queue weight is diminished, and we still have to see Ravi's problems every single day.

Charlie
2003-07-26 10:29:30
Re: Order of Posting

I think I remember seeing a note on a forum saying that levik prefers Riddles and similar problems to appear in the first puzzle of the day. Also easier puzzles are held or expedited to weekend slots. I don't know if there are any other preferences as far as timing. Sometimes when I push something I'll choose something that I don't have a clue about, so I'm not tempted to post an answer right away. But I avoid voting on or pushing riddles. But since levik is up early in the morning Monday - Thursday, there's ample opportunity for those. But it does affect the order of postings.

Gamer
2003-09-09 17:09:24
Re: Order of Posting

I don't know a scholar's experiences, but should a problem be pushed that just appeared in the queue that day? It seems wierd to do something like that.

DJ
2003-09-09 17:33:09
Re: Order of Posting

I thought that it was odd, too...when there are problems that have been sitting approved in queue for a week or better. On the one hand, there is very little exposure to that problem, so all attempts will be 'fresh' approaches, but on the other hand, those other problems will sit and stagnate even longer. No matter, it was approved that quickly, and there's not much point fussing over it now...

Gamer
2003-09-09 18:20:05
Re: Order of Posting

I am just saying we shouldn't do that with many (if any) more problems... :)

Charlie
2003-09-09 21:47:37
Re: Order of Posting

As levik mentions above, "I generally DO post the first one that's in the queue and eligible (making it Ravi's if he has one)"

but also modified by levik's comment in the Library Forum:

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Because only one problem goes up per day on the weekends, it should be a moderately interesting one.

I believe that we should try and avoid a situation where two consecutive problems are from the same person or in the same category - the site looks more diverse if there are no \"streaks\" of similar problems, or problems from one user.

I believe the problem to be pushed should be the highest one in the queue that qualifies under the above. Exceptions can be made for good problems that have hung around the bottom of the queue for a long time. >>

The posting of Ravi's problem, in the top slot in the queue, and with the three previously pushed problems not being either Ravi's or in the same category, made Ravi's problem the one of choice.

Charlie
2003-09-09 21:49:45
Re: Order of Posting

Of course it's subjective as to how long "a long time" is in hanging around the bottom of the queue.

Charlie
2003-09-09 21:51:32
Re: Order of Posting

I would personally prefer to try to get them out in the order in which they had received their third thumbs up, or give a priority to some that have already achieved more than just 3 thumbs up. However, such priority is, as mentioned above, an exception.

DJ
2003-09-09 22:12:56
Re: Order of Posting

Yeah, that's what I try to generally do, since the order in the queue is the order in which they are submitted, not the order in which they entered the queue (and of course not the order in which they were approved). Alternatively, I try to push problems that have just been sitting in queue for a long time, even if they haven't had 3 TU the whole time or even for a long time, so as to minimize the 'pre-exposure' each problem has before going to the main page.

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