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levik
2003-09-05 17:14:34
Avatars!

OK, everyone, I would like to announce that the site will now support avatars from my other (new) venture - Avatarity. You can set your avatar in by going to your profile page - it will be visible in your profile, and in the forums.

Gamer
2003-09-05 18:34:08
Re: Avatars!

I am surprised to find that bust a move dude on there! I love playing Bust a move and was so surprised to see it! :D

Gamer
2003-09-05 18:36:50
Re: Avatars!

How do you set it from your profile? I am still confused as to that part.

levik
2003-09-05 19:44:03
Re: Avatars!

To set up your avatar for perplexus, go to your perplexus profile, and where it says "Avatar" click "pick"

That will take you over to Avatarity and give instructions on exporting the avatar back to Perplexus

Gamer
2003-09-05 21:41:29
Re: Avatars!

When I clicked on "Your information" and "Edit your info" I couldn't find that avatar thing anywhere.

levik
2003-09-05 22:34:11
Re: Avatars!

Sorry for the confusion - you don't need to click "Edit your info" - onece you are looking at your user profile, the avatar and a link to change it should appear on the upper-right.

Gamer
2003-09-06 09:45:34
Re: Avatars!

It doesn't appear there though... I don't know if I am not looking in the right spot, but all I see is the normal stuff.

art
2003-09-06 13:46:28
Re: Avatars!

(This is levik again)

It works for me under my test accounts as well. Click "Your Information", and see the blank avatar in the top-right corner.

If you're logged in, you should also see a "Pick" link under there. Does it not show up for you?

Test_Gamer
2003-09-06 14:24:12
Re: Avatars!

Here is my test account, and it works here, but it doesn't work for Gamer... I don't know why...

Gamer
2003-09-06 14:27:11
Re: Avatars!

What I did was typed in the same link that I got from Test Gamer in when I was signed in as Gamer, and chose my spinning Bust-A-Move dinosaur dude... :) It still doesn't show up in my user profile that that's what I have selected though.

Test_Lewis
2003-09-06 16:22:02
Re: Avatars!

Its the same for me...

Lewis
2003-09-06 16:23:10
Re: Avatars!

Testing avatar

Lewis
2003-09-06 16:23:43
Re: Avatars!

HOORAY! I just did the same as Gamer and it worked OK.

DJ
2003-09-06 17:35:13
Re: Avatars!

I got it working, but they're right, the link is only showing up on newly-created accounts. The selection, as I'm sure you're painfully aware, is somewhat limited.. but how about just including all the smiley face avatars on the flooble forum? That would be an easy big step, I think, to expanding the choices..

TomM
2003-09-06 19:19:24
Re: Avatars!

I had no problem. Really Simple. Thanks Gamer and Lewis for helping levik work out the bugs. :)

Gamer
2003-09-06 21:07:48
Re: Avatars!

I don't really mind the selection... there are "enough" for me... Some of the ones on there are cool (I haven't seen the puzzle bobble before so that struck me by surprise)

levik
2003-09-06 23:32:51
Re: Avatars!

I'm not sure what exactly you guys were missing - If you tell me which link didn't show up for your old accounts, I will try to fix this.

Also, DJ, I really didn't understand what you were saying about smileys and the forums.

Just to be clear, you DO NOT NEED to sign up on avatarity to use one of the avatars on perplexus. The only limitation is the 64x64 pixel dimensions, which rules out most of the Street Fighter animations...

Gamer
2003-09-07 08:30:03
Re: Avatars!

The problem for me is that link for the avatar isn't at all on my account. It's there for my new account, but not for this one. I think it might be account specific too. I can see both levik's and TomM's avatars when I go to their "about" page, but not anyone else's. (including my own)

TomM
2003-09-07 08:43:59
Re: Avatars!

Maybe it is specific to your browser. I see nothing wrong. I'm using Netscape 7.01.

Let levik know what browser you are using, and then maybe he can repeat the problem, and find a solution.

Lewis
2003-09-07 08:46:32
Re: Avatars!

I can only see TomM's and levik's too

TomM
2003-09-07 08:52:24
Re: Avatars!

Oh, and levik -- what I think DJ was talking about: one of the ads that's been appearring lately in the right-hand column is for animated smiley icons. He may have thought that that was another venture of yours.

Gamer
2003-09-07 09:08:10
Re: Avatars!

I see about a bazillion smiley icons ads a day... the ones that say "Free smileys for your email" like the ones at smileycentral ;)

levik
2003-09-07 10:30:42
Re: Avatars!

Seems to have been some weird problem with IE. I changed the HTML for the avatar box a bit, so hopefully it will now work for everyone. Do let me know if that's not the case.

levik
2003-09-07 10:34:14
Re: Avatars!

On another note, I'm thinking of making avatars show up in problem comments as well... Any thoughts? (Are you TU or TD on this idea, and where would be a better place?)

Alan
2003-09-07 10:38:05
Re: Avatars!

problem comments and forum, and public profile all get TU from me. Anyways levik does our avatar have to be from avatarity.com? or is it possible to find our own sprites?

Alan
2003-09-07 10:41:08
Re: Avatars!

Btw: avatarity is a very nice site. I wonder if i could help. I may be able to locate some sprites and send them to you. (mostly video game sprites but thats pretty much what everyone has)

Charlie
2003-09-07 11:30:31
Re: Avatars!

Personally, I think avatars would be too much of a distraction in the comments.

Lewis
2003-09-07 12:31:16
Re: Avatars!

I agree with charlie on the comments bit.

levik
2003-09-07 12:48:06
Re: Avatars!

Right now you have to pick an avatar through Avatarity - however if you want to use your own, you can sign up with Avatarity and submit the avatar there. If you don't wish to share it with others, you can make it private.

As far as comments and avatars go, I was thinking of only showing one avatar of the poster of the comment you are currently looking at (since comments are shown one at a time.

Gamer
2003-09-07 14:20:59
Re: Avatars!

I don't like avatars in the comments... seems like they aren't needed there as much...

Gamer
2003-09-07 14:25:36
Re: Avatars!

The cool thing is all your comment's avatars change when you change your avatar... See I changed to cloud now... :)

levik
2003-09-07 15:16:12
Re: Avatars!

Yeah, the avatars are completely dynamic.

About the comments, I disagree with you - we have a lot of members, and keeping track of who's who is difficult. Associating somebody with a visual representation of any kind helps you to remember that person - you come to associate the picture with some sort of reputation. This should work fairly well for comments.

I was actually thinking of adding a feature where it wouldn't allow you to use a particular avatar if it was already in use by somebody who is Journeyman+... Not sure yet though.

Gamer
2003-09-07 15:34:17
Re: Avatars!

Personally, it would be harder to remember people's avatars than people's names. I think it would be just memorization for me to remember whose aviatars were what... For example, I don't look like a cloud or a dinosaur, and except for when you are groaning that Marbles Bonanza isn't going to the top of the queue, you probably don't look like your avatar either :)

levik
2003-09-07 16:58:40
Re: Avatars!

The point though isn't for you to look like your avatar. It's just to have some visual cue that gets associated with the person - using a different part of the brain than what would be responsible for storing a combination of letters that is your name.

Our brains are wired in such a way that recognizing an graphical icon would be be easier for them than recognizing a name.

Gamer
2003-09-07 17:32:11
Re: Avatars!

"Our brains"? It has always seemed to me that associating words with a person is easier to me than to associate a graphic with a person... particularly if the graphic doesn't make sense with the person.

This may be because when I refer to a person, I use the screen name rather than the avatar (or something else identifying)...

levik
2003-09-07 19:08:42
Re: Avatars!

Hmmm... Maybe I am unique in this, but it always seems that in online forums I start recognizing people much quicker by their avatars than by their screen names. Perhaps it's because I don't have a very good memory for names...

One thing I am sure of is that a different part of the brain is used for "memorizing" something visual like one's avatar than for some bit of text or sound. As such, I don't think it would hurt if the comments provided an additional queue for people to associate with the poster.

DJ
2003-09-07 23:17:27
Re: Avatars!

I posted this earlier, but for some reason it's not showing up -- probably I just forgot to hit the 'Post' button.

Anyway, I know the difference between an ad banner and the rest of the page..I'm talking about the flooble forum (there's only one - http://forum.flooble.com); when you sign up there are a hundred twenty-something smiley face avatars you can pick from. I was just suggesting that you make those available on Avatarity (and, in turn, on here). It would be an easy, quick way to add a good number of images to the listing (plus there's one there that I really like)..

I like the idea of showing the avatar in problem comments, especially since many people don't visit the forums or other people's info pages, and as levik said, it's a good way to visually associate people. Obviously, you would still refer to people by their screen name, but the pictures are nice, and if we're going to have them, you can be sure that they'll be seen more in problem comments, than anywhere else. The only other place, maybe, is next to the author of a problem that you're looking at, as well as the author of the comment you are viewing, but anything more than that might be overkill.

I also like the idea of 'reserving' icons in use by Journeymen and up (since I fit into that category), because there are not an overwhelming number of us, and I think it will make it easier to recognize the people who are always around and always contributing, or at least prevent any confusion.

TomM
2003-09-08 06:07:57
Re: Avatars!

Sorry, DJ. I didn't know about the avatars on forum.flooble.com, and since levik seemed not to recognize your reference, I thought it might be the ad banner. My bad.

DJ
2003-09-08 14:08:04
Re: Avatars!

No need to apologize.. I'm just surprised that levik didn't know what I was talking about.

Gamer
2003-09-08 15:58:39
Re: Avatars!

I think I would like to change my avatar if there were better avatars that were made available, or I just wanted a change of scenery, however I don't want to have to bump someone off another avatar or not be permitted to use someone else's avatar.

Other than this reason I think that would be good to avoid confusion and association, but I don't see any way around my above idea.

If others want avatars in comments I don't care, but I still think they would be more of a distraction. (at least to me)

levik
2003-09-08 17:31:09
Re: Avatars!

DJ: I set up that forum over a year ago, and the avtars on it came canned with the software. I never really paid much attention to them which is why I initially didn't understand you. Yes, I too sometimes get lost in the complexities of all things flooble.

Gamer: My idea would only ban someone from switching to an avatar in use by a high ranking member. If you as a high ranking member wanted to switch your avatar to something that's already used by a novice, it would not affect anyone (the novice doesn't get kicked, but perhaps you get notified that someone else is using the avatar of your choice)

Gamer
2003-09-08 20:48:43
Re: Avatars!

Ok... I see what you mean; I think that would be good to implement.

SilverKnight
2003-09-09 03:01:34
AAAAAAA CHHOOOOOO !!!

I just found out that I'm allergic to avatars... *sigh*

P.S. I think dynamic loading of one's own 64x64 pixel image (checked to make sure that it's not bigger than say... 1024 bytes or something) would be really cool. Then one could guarantee a unique avatar (well almost... I suppose someone could copy it and change a pixel or something).

levik
2003-09-09 07:47:55
Re: Avatars!

If you wish to have your own, you can submit it to Avatarity as a "private" avatar - then use it on this site.

SilverKnight
2003-09-09 23:18:28
Re: Avatars!

cool... you're a step ahead of me, then.

DJ
2003-09-09 23:25:54
Re: Avatars!

Yup.. that's what I did (isn't it great?) :-p

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