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2013-12-20 20:20:36
For the Guidance of Novices, Students, A

<font size=\"5\"><font color=\"#FF233D\">For the Guidance of Novices, Students, Apprentices and Other Interested Parties.<font><font>
Please be sure to read to the entire first section to get a full understanding of what is given you.

After the first (and subsequent) post of a new problem a poster can expect to have it assessed about:
- its relevance
- any editorial concerns
- any conceptual issues and lastly
- have its difficulty rating assessed.

Then the poster can expect that upon publication:
- the problem may have queries that were not considered in the queue
- some hints from those "in the know"; ie, they indicate they have solved but 'tantalize' other solvers
- at least one solution
- a thought that is related to the intended focus of the problem without critiquing upon the initial focus
- any official solution might be constructively discussed

For those who have the privilege to visit the Queue and assist in the review of problems many who saw the
dialog of "<font color=\"#FF233D\">Who's asking<font>? And "<font color=\"#FF233D\">Ars magna<font>" may still be wondering exactly what went on.

Before I proceed let me say that I have considered this deeply, and I have determined that there is a more
fundamental issue behind the spat between Ady and myself which I will address a little later.

The differences between Ady and myself largely arise out of what problems posters should rightfully expect.
He began a campaign of posting TDs on problems where he deemed the D-rating too high! I wrote an article
stating the long-time understandings of D-ratings, Ady oddly wasn't aware of it until I personally brought
it to his attention. Then he has tried to further complicate what is a difficult enough issue anyway.

Later he determined that some-one's problem (I cannot recall whose) should go in a specific direction.
When it passed with heeding Ady's superior knowledge Ady decided that it was his duty to offer the poster
a post mortem lecture about what the problem should have been and it's outcome.

Now when Ady's problems, cited above, I indicated that before I'd continue dialog with those I wished
to have a closed (but witnessed) dialog with him. He refused and brought issues directly into the queue
commentary (he accused me of being that person, but the conversations, well most of them are intact below,
directly copied from the Perplexus pages).

I did cite that Ady had approached Charlie and myself about a D-level of a Math Man problem. In the
light of his TD campaign I assumed that he was lobbying us to be complicit with a lower D-rating.
At that point Ady charged me with "SCHEMING LIES" etc, and posted an email to Forums relating to the
D-ratings. Shortly afterwards he "savaged" my official solution pertaining to "<font color=\"#FF233D\">Upon Reflection<font>" - no-one,
and I mean no-one, has ever done that before!

With that misuse of Forums I deemed it necessary to approach levik indicating that two senior members of
Perplexus were behaving badly. I cited the commentaries of the Ady problems, the abuse of Forums (for
which I am now guilty), and Ady's attacks at "Upon Reflection".

Received from Levik (he was returning home within about 48 hrs):
I hope though that by then you and Ady will have worked it out, and have decided on a common resolution,
which I will happily implement. Suspending anyone is not something I'm very interested in doing...

Ady has happy to understand such news but he left the onus of any resolve squarely with me. After my
first attempt Ady refuted some issues. I offered my reasons for not wanting to go that way.
I'm afraid that his email back was very terse and as such there was no goodwill left., the onus still
squarely back to me:
"<font size=\"5\">I will accept any wording of yours as long as it is symmetric and not unilatteral.
Please present YOUR TEXTto me and specify where and how you want to publish it.
Previously you wanted to get the conflict resolved ASAP,
now you are steering it the direction of amplified attention.<font>
Yes it was "Shouted" in a raised font size!
Ady did also want this conflict resolve but on his terms, he had "done nothing wrong"! Supposedly still
acting as a consultant, he simply could not agree in the earliest stages to have all signs of conflict erased.
His consultation skills fail me.

With goodwill gone I presented again to levik (my timestamp: 12/12/2013 11:41 AM). I've had no response.

I have considered that levik is still prepared to stand behind that paragraph on the "about" page. He is
not prepared to act upon misdemeanours (we saw Penny, Gamer and Silverknight in a war of words where nothing
was done, Penny actually backed down as I recall - Jonathan Chang was a thorn. Larry and I had to deal with
that, Larry successfully found a solution). Regarding Jonathan Chang he probably knew nothing of that but
surely he knew about the other altercation.

I am a moderator on a PHPBB site that shall remain unnamed. None of the above behaviour would have been
tolerated there. Either a MOD would have intervened with a caution or ban. Of course a MOD can be held
to account by the ADMIN. Levik has that understanding.

Levik has not shown me that he is prepared to be decisive. I wonder if he will now firmly sanction me as
well as take down those matters which I have addressed to him, or will this be all that disappears?

Below are two dialogs which no longer exist for public view on the Perplexus server.

2013-12-20 20:22:37
Who's asking?

The following dialog still exists on the Perplexus server but, because the problem has gone public,

only Ady and levik can see it. Note: This was copy/pasted from the Queue prior to publication.

Who's asking? (Word Problems @ 2013-09-11)

One boot bettor ...

Solution: 1 characters. QW: 1. [Scholar Edit] Posted by Ady TZIDON
Math Man: 2013-11-21 15:34:20 ()
Jer: 2013-11-23 21:00:06 (is that a typo? bettor -> better)
brianjn: 2013-11-23 22:34:44 (I'd mentally questioned that on first sighting.
"Bettor" is one who bets, which is probably the intent.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-24 12:28:52 (i do not recall posting it and do not know
what it stands for (???). I will delete it within 48hrs, unless someone
provides a viable explanation.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-24 17:47:01 (OK,no prob,-, JUST SOLVED IT - i)
brianjn: 2013-11-24 22:10:47 (Ok, if you had to reflect on this because you
"do not know what it stands for (???)" , and then you somehow become aware
of it, it seems to require something else so that it is less cryptic.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-25 05:48:45 (I just solved it as a new puzzle, apparently
MM solved it quickly, you will solve it in no time - I have just forgot that
I have coined it long time ago. Just consider the title ...)
Jer: 2013-11-25 08:56:01 (I understand. You submitted the over 2 months ago.
Still a bit funny.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-28 03:47:34 (I understand that 2 people solved it already.
Where is #3? It is d2 with a hinting title.. Well..)
brianjn: 2013-11-28 05:28:33 (DON'T bank on MM having solved, he regularly
puts up a TU even when there have been challenges.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-28 10:55:33 (True, but it is indeed very easy...Should
I provide a hint or wait??)
brianjn: 2013-11-28 22:21:31 (It's up to you, but I'm reading Jer (Still a
bit funny) as giving you the benefit of doubt rather than having solved.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 02:50:23 (Just e-mailed you a hint - to facilitate
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 02:52:33 (IMHO "still a bit funny" addresses me
forgetting the essence of my own puzzle, not the contents)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 04:14:58 (Hmmm! Very seriously my email works fine but
I cannot receive from your connection. I can explain but I will have to
invoke other scholars as audience. Do you mind?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 06:27:03 (Retransmiting again. If you don't want to
receive email from me - just say so. No need to bother anyone.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 06:28:26 (I need another vote, not necessarily yours ,
someone who solved it and liked it.)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 06:32:50 (I will discuss but with a selected and closed
audience. Between us we have issues.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:21:12 (ok - hint: - just anagram the texy-)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:24:28 (I presume that "cannot receive" is an
euphemism for blacklisting,- leaving me with only one option - correspondence
only on this board.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:26:12 (The reason for your vindicative actions can
be only explained as seeking revenge for my statement, that your puzzle was
nice, but badly worded.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:29:45 (I will not stoop to similar methods but I
still will present my reservation regarding the contents and the style.Some
people appreciate this, some feel offended. I do not intend neither to guess
every reader's)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:32:27 (psychology nor to cater to anyone's whims.
You somehow assume that the word "scholar" is equivalent with God.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:35:58 (It is very discouraging that you need a
politburo (selected and closed)discussion about "issues" between both of us.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:40:09 (As I am precluded from hearing your one
sided presentation - I hereby offer a solution for those "issues" ( I don't
know what issues))
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:44:17 (: Dear chosen audience, Please get Brian of
my back . I will gladly accept any open-minded mentor( ANY!!) and promise to
go on and contribute to Perplexus by posting my creative puzzles and productive
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:46:24 (Honestly , I still don't know why other Schs and
J ms refrain to vote (TU or TD) - do you need Briab')
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:46:24 (Honestly , I still don't know why other Schs and
Jms refrain to vote (TU or TD) - do you need Briab')
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 14:56:02 (- SORRY to misspell - Brian's consent? Do you
want me OUT? Brian mentioned with pride his victorious battles with Penny and
Gamer .)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 15:00:04 (Nothing to be proud about. It is definitely our
loss. The word belongs to nonconformists , even though yes-men still survive.
Respectfully Dr Ady Tzidon ( Not retired, as Brian assumes, but successfully
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 15:02:09 (and enjoying happy and creative life with numerous
hobbies, recreational math being one of them).)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 15:04:11 (P.S. after viewing the lowest conceivable Brians
letters, I truly feel relieved sharing my credo with you.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 16:29:01 (Spelling correction: Dear chosen audience, Please
get Brian OFF my back . I will gladly accept any open-minded mentor .ETC...)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 18:34:01 (OMG! There are several incorrect points there, one
of which is that I alluded to an incident between Gamer and Penny, I had nothing
to do with it; you misrepresent the truth.)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 18:39:24 (In truth it is better to air issues privately, but
I was seeking to have silent witnesses to ensure that I was seen to be fair in
my opinions and that I would not later be misrepresented. I won't persue that
further ...)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 18:42:43 (... however the attitude that you shave shown towards
other person's problems, holding them to ransom over a TD so that you could get your
way as to how the problem must appear is not what scholars set out to do!)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 18:45:45 (If you want respect they you need to respect the spirit
in which I believe levik created Perplexus. I've said enough.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 03:27:08 (1. What is " respect they.."? 2. Why don't you address
the puzzle now that you know more about it?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 03:31:38 (3. There are 6 lines of your remarks after ")
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 03:33:21 (" I won't persue that further ...) . How many will
follow after "I've said enough."?)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 03:35:02 (It's time you settled down and accepted whtat Perplexus
was meant to be.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 04:55:05 (i am ready and willing to comply with a well-defined
concept, not virtual and vague demands of yours. So far none of my question (especially
re" my last puzzles) was answered. What I'm getting is a shower of numerous)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 04:56:52 (correction: So far none of my questionS (especially re"
my last puzzles) was answered. What I'm getting is a shower of numerous)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 04:59:05 (accusations, like "ransom over a TD" and " getting
my way" .)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 05:01:27 (my way... etc. Please be specific and I will respond,
- politely , but not neceseraly)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 05:05:24 (on your wavelength. One more question: Do you still
prefer the public conversation (imposed by you) over unbiased exchange of ideas bu Email?
Whatever is your response i)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 05:05:25 (on your wavelength. One more question: Do you still
prefer the public conversation (imposed by you) over unbiased exchange of ideas bu Email?
Whatever is your response i)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 05:07:18 (I will see it like 10-12 hours from now - there are
pleasant matters waiting for my attention. Cheers!)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 05:10:20 (Last correction for to-day: s.b. exchange of ideas
BY Email? . Signing off.)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 06:30:46 (There is no point. It's all been said. I must express
my sadness however that many of those issues seem no longer to be in your memory. Oh.
Some other thoughts are in your other problem, and my "On Reflection". Er ..)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 06:32:51 (.. @2013-11-30 05:05:24??? Twas I who offered the email
exchange but ..... oh! Why bother!!)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 17:10:39 ()
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 17:21:38 (ok, let us stop here. We are both mature enough not
to reach the point of no return. Any escalation would be)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 17:23:15 (counterproductive.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 06:15:58 (So clearly you are prepared to allow more to see how
much of an ass you have been, maybe I should TD just to mach it hang around longer.
I am going to INSIST that you attend to my "On Reflection" as I asked in the email)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 06:51:41 (Oh, by the way, Ady pretends not to know what "ransom
over a TD" @:2013-11-29 18:42:43 means. On more than one occasion he saw fit to place
a TD on a problem until the poster complied with lowering .....)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 06:53:11 (... the Difficulty Level. Ady, you can have all of this
negativity about you, all true, removed. You have the ability.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:45:09 (Please read my comments re the diff'. level @ Forum ,
after the lengthy expose by Brian. Re " ransom" I have pledged never to precondition
my TU by accepting my opinion. While it was done in the past , - I was not the)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:46:41 (only one to write "Temporary TD", " will TU, if,," etc.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:46:42 (only one to write "Temporary TD", " will TU, if,," etc.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:48:51 (I however refuse to falsify protocols and whatever
was written represents someones opinion, that even if erroneous, should not be erased.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:53:38 (I even firmly believe that "Um", " ummph", "perversively
pedant", " arrogant dictator" should be left untouched, since they reflect the perception
and the capabilities of a person that)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:54:19 (used them, not the addressee.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:57:18 (Threats of TD.? That would constitute abusive misuse
of an instrument presumed to judge the value of the puzzle, not the disdain you feel

toeards the author.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 16:58:31 (But, ..if you want to shoot, shoot! ...Don't talk ..)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 17:02:06 (You will need more than one unrelated TD, it is hardly
conceivable that someone will assist you in a political persecution of someone that authored)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 17:06:32 (437 problems (mosyt of them original) and 1637 comments ,
always voiced his beliefs, his only sin being disobeying the mighty Tsar.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 17:11:41 (i still maintain I did nothing wrong. I was pulled into
stupid dialog , refused to rewrite text of mine and challenged the possibility of Brian
to be a fair judge between me and himself.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 17:14:20 (If someone wants to address the value of my original
puzzle (too easy, too difficult, needs a hint, change title etc) Please ask , comment
or vote.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 17:16:18 (Otherwise it is a standstill, since I will not submit
to demands of falsification and will leave no accusation unanswered.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 17:46:35 (@:2013-12-01 16:57:18 Huh? What is this? Yes it would a
massive abuse but you ssuoght to do that to Math Man. You even had the audacity to
attempt to have Charlie, Jer or myself to intervene to assist you in ..........)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 17:48:34 (..... in lobbying him to alter his rating, I have your
email which shows your intent. Nothing wrong!! Give us a break. Show some decency
and I will similarly oblige.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 17:52:15 (Small oversight - Jer was a recepient of that email.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 19:47:41 (OOPs, Jer was not a recipient!)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:12:21 (There was no lobbying,- just asked for MM's Email.
To expose your scheming lies - posted the letter verbatim on the FORUM. Whoever sees
some lobbying in this letter should join forces with the Dictator.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:13:52 (I found it difficult to comment here, therefore tried
Forum. Maybe it is a better idea.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:18:04 (Who cares who was the recipient of an innocent letter.
No none, including the Tsar, saw anything wrong in it at that time.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 20:37:56 (Oooohhhh!! Forum??? You really are intent in showing that
Perplexus is not a very good place in which to be a member! NEVER. I have more respect
for the site!)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 01:53:57 (You till do no no address the current puzzle.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 01:55:52 (What does "Oooohhhh!!" stand for?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 01:59:31 (Correction: You still do not address the current puzzle
( that what this board is for). What's wrong to use Forum thread discussing difficulty
brianjn: 2013-12-02 02:52:13 (Oh dear. You would have me despoil the great reputation
that Perplexus enjoys in the outside world. "robots" monitor this site. I'll not do
something as stupid as to have its reputation defamed!)
brianjn: 2013-12-02 03:01:09 (Ady!! Check your email, the one where you have
recipricated in blocking me.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 05:17:58 (a. Specify what Email (written by me or by you?).
What is "recipricate" - is it some version of reciprOcate?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 05:23:16 (b) You have apparently forgot the purpose of the
reviewing board i.e. to edit, improve and approve( or not). You still do not address
the current puzzle ...)

2013-12-20 20:23:25
Re: For the Guidance of Novices, Students, A

Unless there is some means for levik to "unerase" this from the server, this text has

been deleted when Ady took down the problem.

Ars magna (Word Problems @ 2013-09-11)
The following pairs of words are anagrams one of the other:

Roman manor; mean name; steno notes

Please submit additional pairings of anagrams and explain how they are linked.

Solution: 4 characters. QW: 1. [Scholar Edit] Posted by Ady TZIDON
Math Man: 2013-11-25 08:19:56 ()
Jer: 2013-11-27 10:59:02 (Are you implying chained and echidna are connected?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-27 12:13:37 (A noun and the adjective describing it imply conection.)
brianjn: 2013-11-27 18:19:03 (Having handled echidnas several times I can't understand
"chained", They are intensely spiky, nothing like chains or chain-mail.)
Jer: 2013-11-27 22:27:58 ()
brianjn: 2013-11-28 00:33:04 (Jer, having handled the critters in the wild I'd like a
justification for what I view as poor example, otherwise I will TD. Maybe too, the
problem should ask the solver to justify the offering.)
brianjn: 2013-11-28 05:29:14 (Ok. Ady has been since I posted.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-28 10:57:13 (ok ' i will try later to invent better examples.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-28 11:46:23 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-28 11:49:51 (Brian , feel free to erase and to leave about 3-4
samples according to your taste, - there are plenty of others.)
brianjn: 2013-11-28 20:02:04 (No. I asked for justification of echidna. I might well
delete something for which there is a proper justification.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 01:38:36 (Delete whatever you want.)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 06:29:47 (No! For me do do that I need guidelines as to what you
deem to be "related". I won't be accountable for that.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:09:56 (My simplest definition of "related words" might be:
Words that can appear together in a grammatically correct sentence".)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:11:24 (Found ON the web" (1) For example, the alphagram
A-C-D-E-H-I-N has two solutions: CHAINED and ECHIDNA. These answers can be glued
together by simply imagining an ECHIDNA CHAINED to a lamppost. That way,)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:11:44 (once you've found the easier solution, CHAINED,
the much trickier anagram will follow suit.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:12:25 ((2) Btw THE LATIN name for Chained EEL IS echidna cantenata,
which translates into "chained echidna".)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:15:43 (As you see, I have presented 2 examples of those 2
words in succession.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:18:29 (In the future I will not address nitpicking remarks
and limit my comments only when a productive and professional remark is posted.
The style also matters. .)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-29 17:23:48 (Thus the reviewing team is invited to post suggestions
which I might fully or partly accept or remove this puzzle permanently {or to post it
elsewhere}. Good night.) })
Jer: 2013-11-29 18:17:24 (In other words. Very loose connections are acceptable.)
brianjn: 2013-11-29 19:14:34 (I think the first justification is pitiful to say the
least. As to "nitpicking remarks" I hop that also applies to treatment of other
person's problems.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:19:45 (Jer,this is is correct. It is broadly defined and
there is no "a priori" carved -in-stone solution ("upset setup") and the solver
might invent some better samples. I have also agreed to remove any samples that look)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:23:50 (unpropriate. Expanding my feelings toward Brian's
arrogant behavior here on the board occurred only because other channels of communication
were closed by him.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:28:18 (Br , by "hop" you mean " I hope" or else?? Person's
(singular i.e. applying to you) or persons' (pl. i.e. applying to all )?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:33:17 (It is not entirely clear to what you allude. Who
called whom a " perversive pedant"? And was it for a justified reason)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:35:13 (or for misinterpreting a simple statement?)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 01:40:11 (Please, try to write unambiguously, at least when
you address me, it is important that I understand what I mean.)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 02:23:57 (I was attempting to avoid airing "dirty laundry' in
public. You were not prepared to have me email you with silent witnesses so that
I was not misreported as you did with my citing of the .....)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 02:27:18 (... Penny-Gamer incident years ago. Yes my arrogant
behaviour matches you arrogant attitude in assuming that you can have Perplexians
fall in line with your whims. If they don't you see fit to offer a post mortem later)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 02:28:19 (as to what the problem "should have been" - see my
"On Reflection". I've discussed that there.)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 02:29:46 (Oh! Just for the record I did have the grace to clear
my TD but I'll not give you satisfaction of a TU.)
brianjn: 2013-11-30 02:32:45 (My apologies to other Perplexians this should have
been aired privately, sorry that this appears badly for Perplexus and may have
upset your enjoyment.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 17:17:21 (ok, let us stop here. We are both mature enough
not to reach the point of no return. Any escalation would be counterproductive .
You are welcome to Email me , if you are so inclined. I share with you the message)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-11-30 17:18:33 (directed to other Floobers and expect them to
vote the way they feel.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 04:04:09 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 06:16:32 (So clearly you are prepared to allow more to see
how much of an ass you have been, maybe I should TD just to mach it hang around
longer. I am going to INSIST that you attend to my "On Reflection" as I asked in
the email)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 07:44:37 (what email)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:44:53 ( Brian, much that I detest your logic and your
vocabulary, I would never Call you an ASS, even if I had thought that you fit the
description. The level of the language always reveals the personality of the speaker.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:46:20 ( Your email was re-routed to my unsolicited-mail
folder since it came from undisclosed sender. After restoring it to the INBOX I
read it and the only reply is "NO WAY". The text (available for the asking) commands)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:50:46 (me to falsify history, remove my posts here and
cancel my negative comments re badly -worded "upon reflection" etc. Only authocratic,
obnoxious and arrogant DICTATOR could suggest this.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:52:06 (And your threats? TD? The voting should address
the eligibility of the puzzle to be posted, Not your feeling towards the author.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:54:00 ( Even after I've killed (against my inner judgment)
the chained echidna and replaced It by two short words , which anyone can understand-
you still don't like the wording? OK, then td it and shop for three more yes-men..)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 13:59:44 (....Going to cinema ("The butler " ) . Might continue
later.. Meanwhile I ask you, I beg you, i implore you ... Step aside , let others
cast their votes (either way) without your vindicative TD or)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 14:01:23 (almost impossible TU.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 17:58:20 (Actually I have been just much an ass by thinking that
some harmony might have been restored at an email level, how foolish of me. More
Perplexians can expect Ady to place TDs on problems which he will lift if .....)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 18:01:03 ( .. to his D-rting of wording. They may also expect
an expose of his superior wisdom is a problem passes against his will. See my
"On Reflection" to understand what I mean. ....)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 18:01:59 (... Then you official solution may be put under the
microscope. Ady has done NOTHING wrong. Really?)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 18:03:02 (And me? Yes, being stupid enough to expose this
belligerence in the public arena.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:24:13 (It is you that went public by not acknowledging
my 1st emailed which was meant to improve your badly worded puzzle. You preferred
to use the board and now you face the consequences.. My opinion of "your solution" is)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:27:15 (still very low and I do not expand on this subject
because of total lack of interest. If forced i will write a detailed essay , showing
how inaccurate it was and how easily it could have been turned into a really nice)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-01 20:28:42 (puzzle. BTW, don't miss reading the exposure of
your lies on Forum. Thank you.)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 20:42:26 (An essay? Those who have suffered from you intellectual
exposes of their 'follies' would be delighted in that for sure!! :-( That you you
would expose this all to the Forums, more open and permanent suggests how....)
brianjn: 2013-12-01 20:43:27 (.. little respect you have for Perplexus and it
Community ... visitors will see it and wonder why the hell they want to come here.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 02:02:10 (nb)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 02:02:10 (nb)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 02:04:51 ("Visitors" do not see this board. This board
should be devoted solely to jointly review and edit puzzles prior to their publication.)
brianjn: 2013-12-02 02:55:52 (Excuse me if you please. But an expose as you seem
to suggest would have to be in the public arena. Oh! sorry. "visitors" - those who
have not registered? True. But what will they find afterwards?)
brianjn: 2013-12-02 02:56:56 (Sleep well tonight Ady, and may you God bless.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-02 05:09:57 (Thanks- it is morning already . Why don't you
address the puzzle. If you do not want it published, the reason being that you
do not like my attitude, , just TD it with some phony excuse, and let it slowly
fade away.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-05 04:58:08 (Following Brian's request to suggest a way to
end the lengthy dispute between us, I've reacted immediately and send him a detailed
proposal, offering to hear his comments or get his (entirely different) suggestions.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-05 04:59:19 (Failing to get an answer, I re-mailed my offer this
morning, asking Brian to react ASAP. I also notified Brian, that if my appeal remains
ignored, It will be made public on the morning of Dec 8th, after 6:00 GMT.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-09 13:10:26 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
brianjn: 2013-12-10 21:56:08 (I can relate to the new first new example - market
tarriffs, etc, as I can with the others. I'd still like to see that solvers be
specifically asked to justify.)
Daniel: 2013-12-11 04:10:58 (TLDR thumb down for wall of text)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-11 07:47:22 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-11 07:56:34 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-11 08:04:25 (Reduced the "great wall of text "to 2 mundane
samples. OK now, Daniel?)
Larry: 2013-12-13 08:05:00 (I think the "related" concept is somewhat weak. I
can "relate" the 2 words "purple" and "claustrophobic" by saying: I am claustrophobic
and Barney is purple. I would either drop the related requirement or make ....)
Larry: 2013-12-13 08:05:17 (... or make a more precise definition)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-13 11:25:49 (ok, Please suggest,- keep in mind that there is no
"official" carved-in-stone solution.)
Larry: 2013-12-13 18:30:16 (Not sure I have a suggestion. For example, I vaguely
recall a problem once where the two words were also antonyms; or synonyms. Those
are very specific relationships. But if no relationship, there are ?10^6 answers)
Larry: 2013-12-13 18:33:22 (? they make sense when they are adjacent as a two-word
phrase ??)
brianjn: 2013-12-13 19:06:54 (@Larry: up @2013-11-28 00:33:04 I thought that "the
problem should ask the solver to justify the offering." The onus then requires that
something coherent be said, not just a nebulous pairing.)
broll: 2013-12-14 00:43:58 (This thread needs to be put out of its misery.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 13:13:37 (i agree, I just thought the positive direction
was shorter .)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 13:24:42 (Daniel @ Larry - please see the revised text.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 13:28:06 (broll- your voting should address the puzzle,
not the stupid intercene dialog that evolved. Acting differently you punish only
one of the parties, ignoring tha fact that it takes two to tango.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 13:34:12 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 13:35:38 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
brianjn: 2013-12-14 16:35:40 (Justification still does not appear. Punishment?
Have you talked with levik yet?)
Jer: 2013-12-14 17:11:44 (I really want to take this puzzle on its own merits.
As it appears right now there is no reason to give it a TD. On the other hand
if it isn't going to pass it isn't going to pass.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 18:11:34 (I see nothing wrong in the present text. But
if it gets 3 TD s,- it will disappear - can't help it. I even do not understand
the motives of the 'fair voters".)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 19:11:37 (Brian, you voted TU when you had strong (albeit
unjustified) objections as to "nebulous pairing". Now that the wording is impeccable ,
and the word (your word) "coherent" defines the connection - you vote TD.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 19:11:37 (Brian, you voted TU when you had strong (albeit
unjustified) objections as to "nebulous pairing". Now that the wording is impeccable ,
and the word (your word) "coherent" defines the connection - you vote TD.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 19:13:28 (There is neither rhyme nor reason behind it - it
just deries common logic.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 19:18:38 (It just DEFIES common logic. I will never reciprocate
likewise, whenever your text appears, I will cast my vote in reference to the puzzle ,
not its author.)
brianjn: 2013-12-14 21:46:19 (Two words in a sentence does not justify a connection
in my mind.)
brianjn: 2013-12-14 21:48:02 (My original TU was to help expedite a process where the
onus was always left up to me! My original position therefore has not changed.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:29:14 (i understood that., believe me.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:31:59 (1.This is a political, not a professional evaluation
of the subject under consideration, i.e. the PUZZLE..)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:36:32 (2. Your "strategy" did not expedite any process, it
caused the sum of the votes to UNNECESSARILY oscillate between OK and NOK.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:41:11 (3.There are no words like "related" or "connected"
in the "new text", so actually you do not have any reasonable case to object.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:49:41 (4. Whoever examines your recent vote should compare
it to dozens of flawed puzzles who got significantly lesser scrutiny and to say the
liste , slightly more encouragement.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:52:13 (correction: (4. Whoever examines your recent vote
should compare it to dozens of flawed puzzles THAT got significantly lesser scrutiny
and to say the LEAST , slightly more encouragement.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-14 23:55:45 (5. e)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 00:01:47 (5.Even if my puzzle goes down by voting (preferable)
or by administrative means (despicable)- I will not feel bad, keeping in mind that
I am not working for you and my creative work is both enjoyable and rewarding.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 00:10:02 (6. I appeal to all JMs and Schs - vote! Read the
text and VOTE either way, but VOTE ! Your TD or TU should express your opinion,
- is ARS MAGNA fit to be published or not - this issue and nothing else.)
Charlie: 2013-12-15 00:24:33 (I think there'd always be somewhat meaningful ways
of using a given pair of words in a sentence, regardless of the words.)
brianjn: 2013-12-15 05:19:18 (ADY, swallow your pride and use something like:
"Offer and justify pairings of anagrams which may be seen to be reasonably linked.")
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 09:30:11 (ok)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 09:36:14 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 09:39:37 (*** Edited. Changes made to: Body;)
Charlie: 2013-12-15 12:44:01 (I've removed my TD, but still am not fully in favor
of this puzzle.)
Larry: 2013-12-15 16:21:50 (I'm at about 1/3 of a TU at this point. Echo what
Charlie says about 6 comment up from here. I think there should be a more specific
definition from the author rather than any-kind-of-pairing)
brianjn: 2013-12-15 17:09:37 (DR ADY, now a confirmed dialog with levik about
meeting my requirements (you know them well), my patience is zero and for others
reading here I'd guess the same.) (clear)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-15 18:23:36 (Brian, i repeat again that if you are relating
to our dialog , I agree to anything as long as addresses both sides equally.
Please e-mail what exactly is on your mind and I will respond, - not on this board.)
brianjn: 2013-12-15 18:46:58 (You've tried my patience TOO far. YOU KNOW MY STAND.
Jer: 2013-12-16 01:15:01 (I liked this problem best when it implied the words can
be adjacent in a meaningful sentance.)
Jer: 2013-12-16 01:16:48 (This problem still has my TU, but I have to start thinking
seriously about a limitation for deadlocked puzzles. This has never happened.)
brianjn: 2013-12-16 01:42:46 (@Jer. A sentence no: "A slippery SNAIL crawled over
smooth NAILS"? Very pitiful. Deadlocked? Yes, but how to resolve? Perplexus does
not have a mechanism. On a PHPBB board one or both of us would have been seriously)
brianjn: 2013-12-16 01:44:38 (sanctioned. I moderate on one. I offered levik to
sanction both Ady and myself early. Never happened.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-16 02:49:57 (Jer, i am just going to delete it ,- 24 hrs from now.)
brianjn: 2013-12-16 03:30:20 (Pity. Problem as is would work.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-16 10:33:30 (It is by now totally re-shaped and it will return
later. I just do not feel like waiting for favors.j)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-16 10:48:28 (I will also submit a practical solution, how to
avoid a prolonged "deadlock" in the future.)
Ady TZIDON: 2013-12-16 12:37:35 (Comment)

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