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Alan
2003-06-18 10:42:56
The riddle problem

Ok this relates to the problem of the queue having to many problems in it but still is a somewhat different topic. Now as we all know the queue is growing extrememly fast and i think that there is one category of problem that is causing it to grow. Riddles. I say that it might be a good idea that a user should only be allowed to submit riddles if they have had lets say 6 other problems posted to the site. Almost every new user that comes to the site just says "hey i'll submit riddles to improve my rank". Well now, by making this restriction i think the site will now get less riddles (which a lot of people will be happy about) and less problems in the queue (another good thing)

Gamer
2003-06-18 13:32:56
Re: The riddle problem

I would agree with that, but I don't particulary like riddles as much as other puzzles, so I don't know if I am being biased or anything like that.

DJ
2003-06-18 16:59:56
Re: The riddle problem

How about this: every user can submit only one riddle. Ever. I wouldn't be too broken up about it...

Bryan
2003-06-18 17:10:34
Re: The riddle problem

Hear, hear!

friedlinguini
2003-06-19 05:52:18
Re: The riddle problem

Not sure I like that idea. Suppose one user has a talent for writing good riddles. Do we indiscriminately kill off all but one of his submissions? I think the best course of action is to just be very picky about the riddles we accept.

Gamer
2003-06-19 06:02:17
Re: The riddle problem

And what if I submit a riddle, and then see a riddle I like much more? I think we should be picky, but of course saying this is one thing, and enacting it is another.

Alan
2003-06-19 08:55:08
Re: The riddle problem

In my original post i was saying that riddles are simply locked until they reach a certain rank. That way all the site "newbs" who just want to go up a rank by submitting tons of riddles (where the answer is either nothing, life or outer space) simply won't be able to submit this.

DJ
2003-06-19 17:02:58
Re: The riddle problem

My suggestion was a joke, if you didn't catch that...

Still, I think there should be some limitations on riddle submission, because in truth this is not a riddle site, but a math puzzle site. I have not yet seen a riddle that was difficult enough to spend more than a few seconds on that still bore a credible solution, and certainly none as satisfying to solve as a good logic problem.

Bryan
2003-06-19 19:27:45
Re: The riddle problem

I believe this site is for any puzzle that requires some logic to solve, be it a math problem or not (and in fact, the math problem cannot be a simple plug-and-chug, homework type problem if it wants 3TU). I agree with DJ, however, that most of the riddles seen so far have been pretty obvious and unsatisfying. If puzzles were approved by grades instead of a simple TU/TD, I doubt many would pass.

Gamer
2003-06-20 01:43:56
Re: The riddle problem

The two riddles I liked yet was the "The poor have, the rich want, and if you eat it you'll die", but I could have handled only one of those "NOTHING" riddles instead of two (or three or four if any are in the queue)

I also liked Yes, sir! lots as well, because I hadn't seen that one before.

I think logic and math puzzles like Four Digit Number and Letter Cubes would be good for the site, and not that many more riddles.

Bryan
2003-06-20 05:07:25
Re: The riddle problem

Ah, if only you could see my pending problems! Oh well, there's always 2004.

DJ
2003-06-20 05:35:07
Re: The riddle problem

Yeah, I know how you feel, Bryan - if only you could see my pending problems (including Letter Cubes 2, haha...)

Gamer
2003-06-20 11:29:52
Re: The riddle problem

I always want to say "I solve this like I did in my problem [problem that hasn't reached the queue yet]" :)

Chris
2003-06-23 00:55:19
Re: The riddle problem

I understand the problem with riddles. Too many of them in the queue...
This is unfortunate. I love to write riddles and solve them, although problems I have looked at in the Logic section are delightfully challenging. I would, however, like the opportunity to post some riddles I have edited. Let me know what you think. Thanx!

Gamer
2003-06-23 05:29:38
Re: The riddle problem

Make sure they aren't duplicates (we have had sooo many of them), and aren't the "My first is in sail but not in boat", or that the answer is a letter (Without me love couldn't exist).

I think the fact is riddles are easier to find (or create), than other puzzles, so we get more of them.

Peter
2003-06-23 22:59:38
Re: The riddle problem

But this is a puzzle site isn't it? So if we have riddles, we should have those which are able to make us think, and not those which are so "twisted" and full of nonsense, where the answers are not logical at all. Putting aside these, the rest should be easliy accepted.

The more the merrier, I guess..

Alan
2003-06-24 06:07:17
Re: The riddle problem

Yes peter the only thing is that we are trying to make the number of the problems in the queue go down, and we are also faced with the problem of nmot seeing many good logic problems and math etc. A large portion of the queue is riddles, so by implementing this solution we can eliminate these two problems.

Captain Paradox
2004-01-07 17:54:44
Re: The riddle problem

I agree with Alan. Perhaps the riddle option could be moved up to Apprentice or (if it's really bad) Journeyman. This could also apply to other categories that someday become swamped.


Riddles should be reserved for those who already know how to make a good puzzle.

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