Dear all the scholars,

In time to come when the string puzzles have been put up, I need the assistance from all the Scholars to put in < pre > prior to a picture and to end with < /Pre > so as to ensure all the pictures to be in proper order instead of joining up lines without without leaving spaces at the same time.

This is merely due to Mr. Levik told me that Journeymen and students are not granted with the right for the use of these commands except Scholars and Director.

Nevertheless, when the string puzzles are approaching to top ten prior to the releasing, I eagerly seek your co-operation.

Your co-operation to this matter is very much appreciated.

Thanks

Oh! Whoops!

The RESULT as I expected IS NOT THE RESULT WHICH APPEARS IN THE LAST COMMENT!!!

My humblest apologies, Jonathan. The above I did not expect. OK! There is one step that I did not do. I did NOT submit. Now you would have had to SUMBIT to see what we have not.

I have just looked at a problem which I have posted in which the spaces in the layout have been removed. Now it does not affect my layout significantly, but having worked with some of your designs via email, I doubt that the Admin folk could afford time to realign designs of the complexity of your 'string puzzles'.

In my first comment the layout which I had for my Preview bore the HTML 'pre' tags, but as Jonathan contends, they disappear on him. And, in my expected result, I see the crunching phenomena to which Jonathan alluded. And my should read:
"Note that
< pre > (I've expanded the tag here in the hope that it stays visible)
and
< / pre >".

The tags have gone!!

Is there some 'Escape' character that we can add to such lines to alleviate the need for the intervention of the Admin team for which Jonathon legitimately seeks?

Now I type < pre > and < /pre > as follows:

<pre>
|___________|
| |
<pre>
send

JC: **wait** until the problems are in the top ten. You seem to imply that you've petitioned Levik a number of times over this, and you've certainly bombarded the chatterbox with your HTML problems.

Because of the way the chatterbox and forums are, it's not easy to show HTML in them. Also, without seeing your problem it's difficult for us to see what exactly needs to be done.

You seem to think that you need to correct all your formatting problems before the puzzle gets in the top ten. You don't. When it's in the voting queue, we'll be able to see it, and help edit the HTML there. Until then, stop worrying about it: our efforts to help here obviously aren't working.

Sam's right. We can help you more easily when your problem appears in the top ten.

For future reference, I believe the pre tag only works for scholars and journeymen, though I could be wrong. You may look into <a=\"http://perplexus.info/forum.php?fid=6&tid=17\">this thread for more information.

To re-explain in short what is in the above thread, <br> makes a line break and <p> skips a line. To create a less than sign (<) without making an html tag, you must follow an & with lt (as in Less Than).

Example:

Line<br>
break<p>

and then skip a line

translates into

Line
break

and then skip a line

Tristan, the ASCII for '<' is '<', 60 being the ASCII value for '<'.
I note in a reference book \"HTML 4.0 - E.Stephen Mack & Janan Platt SYBEX ISBN 0-7821-2143-8\" that there are two means of encoding various characters.

This is what I referred to earlier as an 'Escape' character. The reference (p77)indicates that there are two sets of \"entity codes\" (or escape sequences). One is called Latin-1 [includes ASCII chars 32 to 126 and 160 to 255. Then there is the USC or Unicode. Here it seems that digits are used instead of alpha chars.

Question: And I haven't tried it, should your <br> instead be written as:
'< br>'? Or would the numeric code work? <br> or even <br> ?
These are the numeric codes for: <, /, > and 'space'.
< == < > == > / == / and space ==

My reference suggests that some browsers do not recognise one or other of these. Maybe Perplexus needs us to use the numeric system. If that is the case, I'm sure that it would make life easier for the 'scholeria' at the edit point, and the "Chatterbox" can again become a place of 'trivia'.

testing...

&38;&108;&116;&59;

The link in the previous post lists all the 'shortcuts' for displaying funky characters in HTML.

I don't know who all gets to use <pre> and </pre> tags, but as a journeyman I am able to use them. Can someone who is a student or apprentice check to see if the <pre> and </pre> tags are available to them by cutting and pasting the following stuff into the window below and posting it? The typeface should change to Courier and all the characters should line up if the tags are working properly.


<pre>
0 1 2 3
4 5 6 7
8 9 A B
C D E F
</pre>

Let's see, Test:

$#60

Yes, that works right.

The other code I was using was just 'ampersand, lt' without a semicolon. It worked sometimes, but not every time. It sure is hard to explain html through these forums here.

OK! We seem to have no real difficulties here, but try an example like I suggested above:
brianjn
2005-06-01 10:26:35 As though you had compose a problem and previewed it before submitting (don't bother to submit though).