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Curious Real Additive Relationship II (Posted on 2008-05-28) Difficulty: 2 of 5
Refer to the earlier problem.

Can you find all possible non zero real quadruplet(s) (P, Q, R, S) that satisfy the following system of simultaneous equations?

2*Q = P + 19/P, and:

2*R = Q + 19/Q, and:

2*S = R + 19/R, and:

2*P = S + 19/S.

Bonus Question:

In the problem given above, if the number 19 was replaced throughout by a real constant M > 1, what would have been the possible non zero real quadruplet(s) (P, Q, R, S) that satisfy the given set of equations, in terms of M?

  Submitted by K Sengupta    
Rating: 2.5000 (2 votes)
Solution: (Hide)
(P, Q, R, S) = (Ã19, Ã19, Ã19, Ã19), (-Ã19, -Ã19, -Ã19, -Ã19) are the only possible solutions to the given problem.

For an explanation, refer to the solution submitted by Praneeth at this location.

Solution To The Bonus Question:

P + M/P = (ÃP – ÃM/ÃP)2 + 2ÃM

or, P + M/P ³ 2ÃM , whenever P is positive, with equality being satisfied whenever P= ÃM.

Thus, 2*Q ³ 2*ÃM, giving: Q ³ ÃM.

In a similar manner, R ³ ÃM, S ³ ÃM and: P ³ ÃM ……..(i)

If P is negative, then it follows that:

-P – M/P ³ 2*ÃM or: P + M/P ² -2*ÃM.

Thus, Q ² -ÃM, R ² -ÃM, S ² -ÃM and: P ² -ÃM………(ii)

Now, if each of P, Q, R and S is > ÃM, then each of P-M/P, Q-M/Q, R-M/R and S-M/S is >0.

Similarly, if each of P, Q, R and S is < -ÃM, then each of P-M/P, Q-M/Q, R-M/R and S-M/S is < 0

Also, if (P, Q, R, S) = (ÃM, ÃM, ÃM, ÃM), or:(-ÃM, - ÃM, -ÃM, -ÃM), then:

P-M/P = Q-M/Q = R-M/R = S-M/S = 0

Now, summing over the 4 given equations and rearranging, we have:

(P- M/P) + (Q – M/Q) + (R – M/R) + (S-M/S) = 0

Now, in terms of (i) and (ii), the lhs of the above equation is always nonzero, unless:

P = Q = R = S = ÃM, or: P= Q= R= S = -ÃM.

Consequently, (P, Q, R, S) = (ÃM, ÃM, ÃM, ÃM), (-ÃM, -ÃM, -ÃM, -ÃM) are the only possible solutions to the bonus question.

Comments: ( You must be logged in to post comments.)
  Subject Author Date
re: SolutionK Sengupta2008-07-28 11:57:58
SolutionSolutionPraneeth2008-05-30 07:12:49
Some ThoughtsMore generally ...Steve Herman2008-05-28 17:01:29
SolutionAha! (spoiler)Steve Herman2008-05-28 16:56:56
An obvious start (spoiler)Steve Herman2008-05-28 13:56:14
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