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On average, how often (once every N years) does a blue moon (2nd full moon in the same month) fall on New Year’s Eve in Los Angeles?

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This appeared in BENT for Fall, 2019 (the publication of Tau Beta Pi).

Their answer (19 years), in the next issue, referenced the fact that phases of the moon generally follow an inexact period of 19 years, so that 19 years after a full moon another will occur on the same date.  But this is not exact; when one is missed the interval is longer, throwing off the mean.  But 19 years is the mode of the times between occurrences, not the mean.

Ordinarily we take "average" to be the same as "mean", not "mode".

My answer is that full moon on January 31 will occur on average every 29.5 years, just as it would for any other date of the year. This is the necessary and sufficient condition for it to be a blue moon, as another full moon will have taken place early in January.

The 19-year Metonic cycle does cause enough regularity as to interfere with the easy match to 29.5 days as some dates do repeat for a long series of cycles, but then miss getting them when the cycle veers of to other dates. The long run is indeed longer than we wish to calculate them.

Using formulae from Jean Meeus's "Astronomical Formulae", I first calculated new moons on January 31 (thereby being blue also) using the mean position of the moon relative to the sun, i.e., not considering the irregularities in the motion).


Using mean moon and sun:

        1599         
        1618          19
        1637          19
        1675          38
        1694          19
        1713          19
        1732          19
        1770          38
        1789          19
        1819          30
        1838          19
        1895          57
        1914          19
        1933          19
        1952          19
        1971          19
        1990          19
        2009          19
        2047          38
        2066          19
        2085          19
        2104          19
        2161          57
        2180          19
        2210          30
        2229          19
        2267          38
        2286          19
        2305          19
        2324          19
        2362          38
        2381          19
        2400          19
        2419          19
        2438          19
        2457          19
        2495          38
        2552          57
        2601          49
        2639          38
        2658          19
        2677          19
        2753          76
        2772          19
        2810          38
        2829          19
        2848          19
        2867          19
        2886          19
        2924          38
        2935          11
        3011          76
        3030          19
        3049          19
ans =
          27.3584905660377  Average distance in years.

There are many 19's, but the average is 27.4.          
          
Using major irregularities in lunar and solar motion in the celestial sphere:

        1599         
        1618          19
        1637          19
        1656          19
        1675          19
        1694          19
        1713          19
        1732          19
        1751          19
        1789          38
        1819          30
        1865          46
        1884          19
        1895          11
        1933          38
        1971          38
        1990          19
        2009          19
        2028          19
        2047          19
        2066          19
        2104          38
        2115          11
        2180          65
        2267          87
        2286          19
        2305          19
        2324          19
        2343          19
        2362          19
        2381          19
        2400          19
        2438          38
        2495          57
        2506          11
        2552          46
        2590          38
        2601          11
        2620          19
        2639          19
        2658          19
        2772         114
        2810          38
        2829          19
        2886          57
        2924          38
        2962          38
        2981          19
        3030          49
ans =
                   29.8125 avg.
                   
                   
                   
                   
%BENT Fall 2019

clearvars
prev=0; diff=[];
for k= -13*410.5:13000
  T=k/1236.85;
  j=(2451550.09766+29.530588861*k+.000154*T^2-1/3); % -1/3 for L.A.
  M=0; Mp=0;
  M=2.5534+29.1053567*k;
  Mp=201.5643+385.81693528*k+.0107582*T^2;
  j=j-.40614*sind(Mp)+.17302*sind(M);
  d=datetime(j,'convertfrom','juliandate');
  dv=datevec(d);
  dv=dv(1:3);
  if isequal(dv(2:3),[12,31])
    if prev>0
      diff(end+1)=dv(1)-prev;
    end    
    disp([dv(1) dv(1)-prev])
    prev=dv(1);
  end
end
mean(diff)                   
                   
To verify all are "blue"

%BENT Fall 2019

clearvars
prev=0; diff=[];
for k= -13*410.5:13000
  T=k/1236.85;
  j=(2451550.09766+29.530588861*k+.000154*T^2-1/3); % -1/3 for L.A.
  M=0; Mp=0;
  M=2.5534+29.1053567*k;
  Mp=201.5643+385.81693528*k+.0107582*T^2;
  j=j-.40614*sind(Mp)+.17302*sind(M);
  d=datetime(j,'convertfrom','juliandate');
  dv=datevec(d);
  dv=dv(1:3);
  if isequal(dv(2:3),[12,31])
    if prev>0
      diff(end+1)=dv(1)-prev;
    end    
    disp([dv(1) dv(1)-prev])

  T=(k-1)/1236.85;
  j=(2451550.09766+29.530588861*(k-1)+.000154*T^2-1/3); % -1/3 for L.A.
  M=0; Mp=0;
  % M=2.5534+29.1053567*(k-1);
  % Mp=201.5643+385.81693528*(k-1)+.0107582*T^2;
  j=j-.40614*sind(Mp)+.17302*sind(M);
  d=datetime(j,'convertfrom','juliandate');
  dv=datevec(d);
  dv=dv(1:3);
  disp(dv(2:3)) % one lunation earlier



    prev=dv(1);
  end
end
mean(diff)

  Posted by Charlie on 2024-11-23 23:11:18
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