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A Near Diophantine Octagon Problem (Posted on 2007-04-22) Difficulty: 3 of 5
The cyclic octagon ABCDEFGH has the sides a√2, a√2, a√2, a√2, b, b, b and b respectively in that order. Each of a, b and r are positive integers, where r is the radius of the circumcircle.

Analytically determine:

(i) The minimum value of a with a < b

(ii) The minimum value of b with a > b

  Submitted by K Sengupta    
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We know that r is the radius of the circumcircle. Let H and W be the angles subtended by the sides of lengths a*sqrt(2) and b at the centre of the circle.

Then, 4H + 4W = 2*pi and hence:
W = pi/2 - H.
Using cosine rule, we obtain:
2*a^2
= 2*r^2 - 2*r^2*cosH
= 2*r^2(1-cos H); and:
b^2
= 2*r^2(1-sin H)

So, (a/b)^2
= (1/2)*(1-cos H)/(1-sin H)
= t^2/(1-t)2; where t = tan H/2
Or, t = a/(a+ b)

so, 1 - cosH
= (2*t^2)/(1+ t^2)
= 2a2/(2a2 + b2+ 2ab)
Or, r =√((2a2 + b2+ 2ab)/2)...(#)

Hence, r is a positive integer iff the expression on the RHS of (#) is a positive integer.

Hence, from (#); b^2 + P^2 = Q^2; where P=2a+b and Q = 2r.
Since, P = 2a+b it follows that P and b must possess the same parity. But we know that for any primitive pythagorean triplet (x,y,z); the parities of x and y must be different.
Accordingly, it follows that (b, P, Q) cannot correspond to a primitive pythagorean triplet and both P and b must be even.

For Part (i), a< b so that P = 2a+b<3b
We know that the smallest primitive pythagorean triplet is (3,4,5). This generateds the triplet (6,8,10), which is in conformity with conditions of the problem.
Now,(b,P,Q)=(6,8,10), yields 2a+b =8 and b =6, giving a=1.
Consequently, minimum value of a is 1 whenever a< b.

For Part (ii), we observe that:
P = 2a+b> 3b.
Since any pythagorean triplet must possess the form (k*(m^2 - n^2), 2kmn, k*(m^2-n^2), we obtain:
2kmn > 3(m^2 - n^2)
3m^2 - 2mn- n^2 < 0, so that:
m< n(1+ sqrt(10))/3 = 1.3874n
For n=2, we obtain m< 2.77 so that m=2, which is a contradiction since we cannot have b=0
For n=3, m< 4.1622, so that m=3, which is a contradiction
For n=4, m<5.5496, so the minimum value of m is 4. Since, both b and P must be even, it follows that the minimum value of k is 2, giving:
P= 2a+b = 2*2*3*4 = 48 and b = 2*(4^2 - 3^2) = 14
This yields a = 17.
Consequently, the minimum value of b with a > b is 14.

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  Subject Author Date
Some Thoughtsre(7): SolutionBractals2007-04-26 13:43:02
Questionre(6): SolutionBrian Smith2007-04-26 00:16:43
Some Thoughtsre(5): SolutionBractals2007-04-25 13:36:30
re(4): SolutionBrian Smith2007-04-25 12:12:54
Questionre(3): SolutionBractals2007-04-24 13:23:57
re(2): SolutionBrian Smith2007-04-24 01:00:13
Questionre: SolutionBractals2007-04-23 13:47:11
SolutionSolutionBrian Smith2007-04-23 11:55:30
Solutionnon-analytical "solution"Charlie2007-04-22 15:40:57
SolutionAnalytic/Synthetic SolutionBractals2007-04-22 14:36:52
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