All about flooble | fun stuff | Get a free chatterbox | Free JavaScript | Avatars    
perplexus dot info

Home > Just Math
A Most Unusual Evaluation (Posted on 2006-01-04) Difficulty: 5 of 5
Let F be an increasing real function defined for all real X, where 0<=X<=1 such that:

(i) F (X/8) = F(X)/7 and
(ii) F(1-X) = 1 – F(X)

For all whole numbers M and N greater than zero, determine:
F ( 1/ ((8^M)* ( 8^N + 1)) ) in terms of M and N.

See The Solution Submitted by K Sengupta    
Rating: 3.0000 (2 votes)

Comments: ( Back to comment list | You must be logged in to post comments.)
Solution Rigorous Solution | Comment 2 of 3 |

I added more explanation in this post, as well as the two proofs of the new rule i and using powers with rule i. (This part was added in the Edit, I accidentally left in the note from the previous post)

Rule i can be rewritten as 7*F(X)=F(8X)

Proof: If F(X/8) = F(X)/7, then F(U/8) = F(U)/7, with U having the same bounds as X. Let U=8X, and substitute, then multiply both sides by 7 to get 7*F(X)=F(8X).

and it also can applied any number of times, which means it applies to the powers in the goal expresssion. (ie F(64) = F(8)/7 = F(1)/49)

Proof by induction that F(X/8^N) = F(X)/7^N

F(X/8^1) = F(X)/7^1 by rule i

F(X/8^N) = F(X)/7^N
F(8X/8^(N+1)) = 7*F(X)/7^(N+1)
F(U/8^(N+1)) = F(U)/7^(N+1) by rule i again. (let U=8X again)

This means F((1/(8^N+1))/(8^M)))=F(1/(8^N+1))/7^M

By the second rule, F(1/(8^N+1))=1-F(8^N/(8^N+1))
By the first rule (using powers) the right side is equivalent to 1 - F(1/(8^N+1))*(7^N), (let X=8^N in that case) and that is similar to the left side. (Both have F(1/(8^N+1)) which is what we want.) 
Add F(1/(8^N+1))*(7^N) to both sides to get F(1/(8^N+1))+F(1/(8^N+1))*7^N = 1 or factored as F(1/(8^N+1))/(1 + 7^N) and divide by 1+7^N to get F(1/(8^N+1))=1/(7^N+1)

Substitute this equation into the right side of F((1/(8^N+1))/(8^M)))=F(1/(8^N+1))/7^M to get F((1/(8^N+1))/(8^M))=1/(7^N+1)/7^M

So F ( 1/ ((8^M)* ( 8^N + 1)) ) = 1/((7^M)* ( 7^N + 1)) 

Edited on January 5, 2006, 12:47 am
  Posted by Gamer on 2006-01-05 00:45:21

Please log in:
Login:
Password:
Remember me:
Sign up! | Forgot password


Search:
Search body:
Forums (1)
Newest Problems
Random Problem
FAQ | About This Site
Site Statistics
New Comments (6)
Unsolved Problems
Top Rated Problems
This month's top
Most Commented On

Chatterbox:
Copyright © 2002 - 2024 by Animus Pactum Consulting. All rights reserved. Privacy Information