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Smallest Value (Posted on 2007-03-27) Difficulty: 3 of 5
Find the smallest possible value of

f =
x4+y4-k

x2-y2

in terms of the constant k, given that xy=k, and x>y>1.

See The Solution Submitted by Dennis    
Rating: 3.3333 (3 votes)

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re: Correct solution (with hand-waving) | Comment 4 of 6 |
(In reply to Correct solution (with hand-waving) by Steve Herman)

This is the same thing I got with one exception.  This fails for very small k (<2) because y ends up needing to be smaller than 1.

Note that a = (x^2 - y^2).

Take k = 3/2

then a = 2*sqrt(9/2 - 3/2) = sqrt(3)
but the largest possible a given x>y>1 is < a when
x=3/2 y=1 which gives (9/4 - 1) = 5/4 (squared is less than 2)

I didn't calculate the exact cut-off but if we relax the constraints to simply x>|y| the spirit of the problem is preserved and we get the interesting answer that when k is between 0 and 1/2 there is no minimum, when it is exactly 0 or 1/2 f can be abritrarily close to (above) but not equal to 0, and when x is outside of [0,1/2] the answer you give is correct.


  Posted by Joel on 2007-03-29 19:55:41

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